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What's going on, everybody? Happy Friday. Welcome into an all new episode of the Pack of Day podcast. I'm your host, Andy Herman. You can follow me on Twitter at Andy Herman NFL. You know my guest. He's the one and only Mike Wall. You can find him on Twitter or X at Mike Wall 68. Mike, it's great to have you back. Happy holidays. How have you been?

Andy, I'm doing great. Thanks for having me on as always. Yeah, it's always fun having you a lot to discuss this week. Unfortunately, not a ton in the positive category, although there certainly was some things on offense to take away from this one. But I feel like I'm playing the hits this week talking to everyone. It's impossible not to start on the defensive side of the Let. Let me just start by simply kind of asking you this.

Coaching issue, scheme issue, execution slash player issue, or all of the above.

Yeah, that's a yes, certainly.

And everybody, everyone's got their opinion as far.

I think the fun thing about being a fan

uh when you're outside of the organization or you don't like you like you don't know how the sausage

is made is that you can go largely on emotion so there's a lot of emotional like well this isn't

happy i don't like it so i can get but if you just like just think this is an NFL organization, the locker room, the locker room

plus the coaching shaft plus the personnel staff, just that alone.

That is a living organism.

And so all these different interactions mean something.

And the way they interact with one another and the way that they hold each other accountable,

all of those things matter.

In a way that we don't necessarily,

we just kind of look at the outcome and go,

well, it's not working or it's not.

But the point here is,

if you don't have any person responsibility as a professional athlete

to like know the basic assignments that you're required to know on day one,

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