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This is the Pack a Day podcast.

What is up, everybody?

Welcome in to this post-game edition of the Pack-A-Day podcast.

I'm your host, Andy Herman.

You can follow me on Twitter at Andy Herman NFL.

Of course, you know the two wonderful people joining me today that I really, really need

here with me today because we've got a lot to talk about.

And it's not all positive.

So I'm going to need a lot of them today.

And I'm very excited that you are both here.

Of course, you know Perry Goldstein at Perry underscore Goldstein of packs what she said fame.

Of course, you can find her here on the pack of a podcast as well uh she's amazing perry how are you doing i'm good so much any time this

week i was just on the radio with you it was awesome you promised that the packers were going to win

and you lied to me but we'll not promise it but uh and then of course we've got grant bills grant at wiscoe grant you can find

them of course great to be chatting with you my friend how are you doing i'm doing good i thought

the bears are going to win too although i didn't promise it to anyone so i thought the bears i was

going to say hackers we're going to win too uh not the bears so i'm just as guilty as perry

it's going to say you could have made some bank in Vegas with that prediction.

We've got a lot to go over, as I mentioned. Before we get there, I do want to mention that today's show is

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