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What is up Packers Nation? Welcome in to Packaday Live. I'm your host, Andy Herman. You can follow me on Twitter at Andy Herman NFL. You know my guest, the one and only Mike Wall. You can find them on social media at Mike Wall 68, process to perform on YouTube. And of course, right here on the Packaday podcast as well. Mike, wish we had a win finally to be talking about. We don't. But outside of that,

how is your holiday and how are you doing, my friend? Hey, Annie, good talking to you. Life is good.

Holiday was great. Thanks for asking. Hope yours was too. And yeah, it was actually a really

fun weekend of ball. And I had a great weekend. It was just this was a really bad game.

It really was. Where do you want to start with this one?

I saw you post online, you know, not having a 300 plus pound defensive linemen on the field

for a huge chunk of the game when you're going up against a big time fullback and a massive

running back and an offensive line that can mall you a little bit is certainly maybe not the

most advantageous situation in the world. Matt LaFleur talked about a lot of bad run fits and bad

alignments. I thought the linebackers were, yeah, just there's a lot of things. Where do you

want to start with this one? Well, I mean, with that post, you know, it's just a reflection for me

of like something we talked about for the last couple weeks, which is you're going to, you're going to see consistent movement off the ball and your interior defensive line because you just don't have the horses there.

It's not like, you know, it's one thing to say somebody's a good or a bad player.

It's another thing to say like, you know, Carl Brooks really weighs 294 pounds or Kobe Wooden and weighs in at 273, whatever it is, right? And that doesn't mean they're not good football players. It just means that, you know, the facts are you have 700 pounds of human pushing against you and you only, you weigh less than 300. That that's a problem and it ends up being a real

problem for your linebackers it ends up being a problem for your safeties when they're trying to

fit in um and so i think that's something that we've shown a light on for the last couple weeks

um it was never more true than it was this weekend uh having said that and then i think part of that is like then Halfley has to go, well, where am I going to get that extra guy? Where is he going to insert? How's that going to work? What's it going to look like? Knowing that we have these kind of problems, do I have to move guys more, et cetera, et cetera. You're not getting any play from the edge defenders aside really from Agnabari. I know Van Ness had like two good plays in the game,

but realistically, you're not really getting any edge work there.

Rashan Gary, I don't know what's happened to him.

Just to shadow his former self right now.

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