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How are you doing, my friend?

Yeah, life is good.

I had a tough game yesterday. That's it. Those are two good football teams. Denver is really, really physical. They showed it early. that hit on Wiley when he took him out of the game by Fonga,

it was just kind of like, all right,

we're going to set the tone here.

I know there's a difference between chirping before the game and hitting when you're between the lines. And I think the Packers found out the difference yesterday. Yeah. That was a very physical game early and often. I didn't think the Packers necessarily backed down from it either. but I don't know, maybe there's a difference between one player dribbling your quarterback's helmet off the ground and the other going after a punter, but it definitely felt like there was some physicality on both

sides. I felt like both teams, you know, had some some injuries and some things that came out of it,

some contact related, some non-contact related,

but obviously the big news in this one,

and we just got it confirmed right before we started here.

Michael Parsons does, in fact, have the torn ACL,

and that is obviously a brutal and devastating loss for Green Bay.

I don't even know the question to ask, Mike.

That's a tough one to kind of get through.

Yeah. So first, I have to just say out loud to the people hear it in the back, going after

the punter is not a tough guy move. Just we're on the same page. The mic apart some things is

it's really tough. You see it actually in the game how the demeanor

changes and the complete lack of pass rush outside. I think what's what's kind of most devastating

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