Pacchierotto and Florentine Sodomites (with Max Fox)

Bad Gays

Huw Lemmey & Ben Miller

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4.6 • 842 Ratings

🗓️ 10 August 2021

⏱️ 92 minutes

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Summary

Not a huge amount is known about Pacchierotto, a sodomite who was convicted and publicly humiliated in Florence, Italy, in 1486, but his story tells us much about the changing fortunes of sodomites at the time, and the important role they played in the politics of the time. In this special episode, Huw talks to Max Fox, editor of Christopher Chitty's Sexual Hegemony: Statecraft, Sodomy, and Capital in the Rise of the World System about Florentine sodomy in the Renaissance, and Chitty's groundbreaking new book. ----more---- Sources: Chitty, Christopher, Sexual Hegemony: Statecraft, Sodomy, and Capital in the Rise of the World System, Duke University Press, 2020 Rocke, Michael, Forbidden Friendships: Homosexuality and Male Culture in Renaissance Florence, Oxford University Press, 1996 Online Digital Map: Flynn, Aidan, Sodomy and The City: Mapping Fear, Surveillance, Sexuality, and Punishment, University of Toronto, 2018 https://utoronto.maps.arcgis.com/apps/MapJournal/index.html?appid=590a95cd059240388f003c49cd722dc9 Scelta di prediche e scritti di fra Girolamo Savonarola. [A cura di] P. Villari [e] E. Casanova. Con nuovi documenti intorno alla sua vita, https://archive.org/details/sceltadiprediche00savo

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0:00.0	Hello and welcome to Badgays, a podcast all about evil and complicated queer people in history.
0:20.8	My name's Hugh Lemmy. I'm a writer and author, and today's guest is the writer, editor and
0:24.6	and translator Max Fox.
0:26.6	He is the translator of the first English edition of Amphitheater of the Dead by one of my favorite gay authors,
0:32.6	Guy Hockenheim, and is an editor of the Journal of Gay Communism, Pinko.
0:36.6	And he's just finished the task of compiling and editing sexual hegemony,
0:41.6	statecraft, sodomy, and capital in the rise of the world system by Christopher Chitty,
0:46.7	following the author's untimely death.
0:49.0	Sexual hegemony is a major intervention into the history of homosexuality,
0:52.9	looking at the relationship between anti-sodomy repression
0:55.9	and the rise of the bourgeoisie in early modern Europe.
0:58.7	And I think today we'll cover some of those topics,
1:00.8	I hope, in today's episode.
1:03.4	Before we start, how do you say it?
1:04.9	Hegemony, hegemony?
1:07.1	I say it hegemony, but I don't,
1:10.0	that could be a British or American. Is there a right way to say it hegemony, but I don't, that could be a British or American.
1:13.3	Is there a right way to say it?
1:14.7	I don't remember.
1:15.5	You know, it's funny, I, I, my first copy editing thing for Verso was Perry Anderson's
1:23.8	book about, called the H word about hegemony.
1:27.2	And I'm sure there's a long sort of dis-word about hegemony.
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