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David and our team of writers and coming up today the athletics Adam Crafton and

Matt Slater join us to discuss the first debate that has broken out in English football

between the Premier League, the EFL and the government in reaction to the radical plans

to shake up the game led by Manchester United and Liverpool.

David will also detail some of the other stories

he's been working on, including,

and I know this is hard to believe,

an Arsenal line from his column involving Mesoturzel.

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Well, there's only really one story to start with after this weekend,

and this is the story that English football has been plunged into, inverted commas civil war after it was

revealed that football league chairman Rick Perry in collaboration with

Manchester United and Liverpool have come up with a proposal for radical changes to the game in this country.

It is a remarkable story, David, the headline on the athletic says, nuclear war, and it's important first of all to to actually recognize where

this has come from because we don't want to take credit for someone else's

work so well done to Sam Wallace at the Telegraph for getting this story.

Yeah brilliant by Sam and the Telegraph for getting this story. Yeah, brilliant by Sam and the Telegraph.

Fantastic Scoop.

One of the best in years really and it's such a potentially game-changing story situation but equally it might not come to anything that's to take

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