Owning It: Fear Conditioning and 'What If' with Peaky Blinders actor Charlene McKenna
Owning It: The Anxiety Podcast
Caroline Foran
4.4 • 654 Ratings
🗓️ 17 July 2019
⏱️ 40 minutes
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Summary
This week I am joined by one of my favourite actors - Charlene McKenna. You will know her from Peaky Blinders but it was a little show at home called Raw where I first discovered her. I met Charlene in NYC to talk about anxiety and straight away we realised we were two anxious Annies cut from the same cloth. We talk about fear conditioning, dealing with the anxious child inside of us, the habit of asking ourselves 'what if' and thinking about the worst case scenarios, and how she got through a bad bout of anxiety in her mid to late twenties.
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| 0:31.3 | Hello, dear listener, and welcome back to owning it the anxiety podcast with me, Caroline Foreign. This week I'm putting out my interview with the incredible Charlene McKenna. |
| 0:37.1 | She's just one of my favourite |
| 0:38.5 | actors. She's been recently in Peaky Blinders, which I'm sure you've heard of and love. |
| 0:44.4 | I used to watch her in a TV show called Raw in Ireland and I just fell in love with her. |
| 0:49.8 | She's just, she's really, really relatable. And when I met her in person, it was like, oh my God, |
| 0:55.9 | here's another person who I feel like I've known my whole life, even though I've met her like |
| 0:59.2 | five seconds ago. We had such an incredible chat about anxiety. I just related to her on so many |
| 1:05.6 | levels. We talked about fear conditioning. We talked about this whole thing of asking ourselves, |
| 1:10.4 | what if, |
| 1:11.4 | and she says, I know by now that if a question starts with what if, it's usually my anxiety |
| 1:16.5 | talking and that was a huge lesson for me to take from her and bring into my day every day. |
| 1:22.0 | So I know for sure you're going to, you're going to laugh, you're going to relate to Charlene |
| 1:26.5 | a lot and she has |
| 1:28.3 | some really really good advice and yeah just enjoy it and always appreciative of the feedback and |
| 1:33.8 | their positive reviews obviously you can give me negative ones if you like and if you haven't yet |
| 1:39.5 | found owning it the book or the confidence kit they're available on Amazon or in select |
| 1:44.5 | stories so I'll pop a link in the product description. Thank you. Obviously I'm so thrilled |
| 1:52.7 | to be joined by Charlie McKenna here in New York City and there's going to be a bit of background |
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