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Hello, dear listener, and welcome back to Owning It, the Anxiety podcast, with me, your host,

Caroline Forin, author of Owning It and The Confidence Kit, or Own It, which it will be called

in the US if you're listening from there, and it will be out in America from April 2nd. The confidence guilt will follow in the autumn or the fall, as you

might say. And this week, I am so thrilled to be joined by my good friend Georgie Crawford,

who has an amazing podcast herself called The Good Glow. I'm sure you've heard of it,

if you haven't, get on it. It's about self-care.

She talks to really, really amazing women about their own self-care and I featured on her series

and got such an overwhelmingly positive response and Georgie is just, she's just one of the good ones.

She has had such a turbulent two years. She, as she will tell

you herself, gave birth to her beautiful baby girl, Pia, and she was getting geared up to go back

to work and enjoying life as a new mum, and she found a lump on her breast and was very quickly

diagnosed with stage two breast cancer. I had to go through the chemo, lose her hair, everything.

And she very bravely went on radio pretty soon after she found out about the cancer

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