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Finding Genius Podcast

Ownership as the Remote Control of Your Life: Can You Push the Buttons?

Finding Genius Podcast

Richard Jacobs

Medicine, Health & Fitness

4.41K Ratings

🗓️ 21 January 2021

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

It's a universal truth: one of the first words a baby speaks is "Mine!" Ownership governs everything in our lives. Hundreds of times each day, we encounter rules that determine who gets what, and when they get it. Tune in for a deep dive into this compelling topic that flies under most people's radar.

You'll discover:

  • How ownership of every single thing on the planet is claimed in one of six ways, whether by a kid on a playground, or a government controlling a global population  
  • Why the assertion that owning nothing would reduce consumption isn't necessarily true
  • When does "possession is nine-tenths of the law" turn into "possession is one-tenth of the law," and how this notion is impacting society now more than ever
  • How and why the gap between what you feel you own and what you actually own is getting larger

Two guests join the show today: James Salzman, the Donald Bren Distinguished Professor of Environmental Law with joint appointments at UCLA School of Law and at the Bren School of the Environment at UC Santa Barbara and author of Drinking Water: A History; and Michael Heller, Lawrence A. Wien Professor of Real Estate Law at Columbia Law School and author of The Gridlock Economy: How Too Much Ownership Wrecks Markets, Stops Innovation, and Costs Lives.

They've joined forces to write a book on ownership, which upon close examination, is something that reaches far beyond holding something tangible that you paid for. Ownership is a form of social engineering, an evolving technology just like any other technology. What does this mean in a world where the ownership of tangible things is becoming increasingly uncommon, and online platforms dominate? What does the future of ownership look like, and how will it affect our lives as free individuals? These are just a few of the questions at the crux of the book co-authored by Salzman and Heller, titled Mine!: How the Hidden Rules of Ownership Control Our Lives, which is slated to be released on March 2nd of this year.

"The place where freedom is born and dies is around ownership, around our access to resources. When governments want to destroy freedom, what they often do first is limit people's ability to own things…there is really nothing more fundamental to freedom than what you can make yours," says Heller. So, what can you make yours, and by what rules could you do that?

Heller and Salzman discuss the six claims to ownership used by everyone, everywhere. They also discuss what it means to decide ownership, and how doing so unavoidably decides our fundamental values. They give eye-opening examples of how the rules of ownership play out in all facets of everyday life, from what we watch on TV to which lane we drive in.

The overarching message that Heller and Salzman aim to get across in their book is this: deciding ownership isn't a force of nature, but a choice, and there can and SHOULD be a debate about it.

To learn more, visit https://www.minethebook.com/.

Available on Apple Podcasts: apple.co/2Os0myK

Transcript

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0:00.0

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0:06.8

95% of people in any profession are good enough to be qualified and licensed 5% go and beyond. They become very good at what they do.

0:15.1

But only 0.1% are real Jesus.

0:18.3

Richard Jacobs has made it his life's mission to find them for you.

0:22.4

He hunts down and interviews geniuses in every field, sleep science, cancer, stem cells,

0:27.2

ketogenic diets, and more.

0:28.8

Here come the geniuses.

0:30.4

This is the Finding Genius Podcast.

0:33.0

That is Richard Jacobs.

0:35.0

Hello, this is Richard Jacobs with the Finding Genius Podcast.

0:41.0

I have two guests today.

0:42.0

One is James Salzman. He's the Donald

0:45.4

Brent Distinguished Professor of Environmental Law with joint appointments at

0:49.0

the UCLA School of Law and the UCSB, Brent School of the Environment.

0:53.2

He's the author of Drinking Water, the History.

0:55.9

Then I also have Michael Heller, he's the Lawrence A. Wien,

1:00.1

Professor of Real Estate Law at Columbia School,

1:02.6

Columbia Law School, is the author of the Gridlock Economy,

1:05.5

How Too Much Ownership, Rec Markets,

1:07.5

Stops Innovation, and Costs Lives.

1:09.3

And they're collaborating looks on it,

1:11.8

looks like in this new book called Mine

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