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Welcome to the Eric Matexas show with your host Eric Matexas.

Hey there folks it's the Eric Matexas show we're at the NRB and I get to

interview all kinds of people for example right now I'm interviewing someone

whose last name is pronounced differently than you would think. His last name is

Strahn but it looks like it would be Struckhan. S-T-R-A-C-H-N. Owen Strahn

please make a note of it. He's a friend and he has a new book out called

Christianity and Wokeness how the social justice movement is hijacking the

gospel and the way to stop it yada yada yada Owen Strahn welcome to my

program. Thank you Eric we have a long history with my last name the last time

you tried to pronounce it it became a video on Twitter. Oh stop it I didn't see

that did I see that? No you said Struckhan. Struckhan. And then I tried to

correct you and yeah I know I'm sorry about that but listen I really do think I

go out of my way not just to pronounce things correctly but to spell them

correctly because I want my audience to look you up. Thank you. The book is

Christianity and Wokeness. Now let's start I'm a writer and I care about words.

The word Wokeness is a hideous neologism but we're at a point where we have to

use these hideous words so when you talk about Christianity and

Wokeness and the social justice movement we all know what you mean but

why did you write this book? A lot of people are talking about these kinds of

things and before you answer that question tell my audience who you are what

you're doing right now. Yeah so I'm a provost and research professor

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