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Welcome to the Eric Mataxes show. You know they say it's a thin line between love and hate but

we're working every day to thicken that line. We're at least making a double even triple line.

Now huge your line jumping host Eric Mataxes. Thank you Todd. I think hey folks this is the

Eric Mataxes show. I claim to be Eric Mataxes but who knows really. I am sitting here with someone

I do know to be Owen Strahn who is a Theologian. You can't say that about many people but you

Owen are a Theologian. You are in Kansas City, Missouri. You have all kinds of bona fides.

But principally you're here to talk about your books. You've written a book called Reenchanting

Humanity. A Theology of Mankind. We discussed that in our first hour. It's an impressive achievement

and an important achievement. But you've written other books. You wrote a book on Chakolson

that I know well because I read it. You've written a book called Awakening the Evangelical Mind.

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