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Welcome to an HBO podcast from the HBO late-month series, Real Time with Bill Maugh.

All right, he's Politico's senior political columnist and host of the On the Road podcast, Jonathan Martin,

and he's a Democratic congressman who represents Silicon Valley, Representative Brokana.

Okay.

All right, from the people, the questions are for you guys, what are the panel's thoughts on Hillary Clinton saying that Joe Biden's presidential re-election bid was a terrible mistake?

Well, I mean, we all came to that conclusion a long time ago.

But the timing was interesting because it was the same week that Obama was opening his presidential library,

and you had the Obama's, obviously, on stage, but right behind the Obama's bill, you had the Clintons on one end and the

Biden's on the other end. It was a little frosty between the Bidens and the Clintons,

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