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Okay here are the questions from the people

Pranel are we at an AI tipping point well I don't know I read this week that there's a new generation. First of all,

the new generations of AI seem to come faster and faster. I don't know, this is not my area,

but it was basically saying it's gotten to the point where it's writing the code for itself. Is this,

is this a real thing that, I mean, I'm sure it's really happening. Is this a real tipping

point? Oh, yeah. I mean, any technology that we're told is increasing on an exponential scale

means that it is a tipping point and it will always be a tipping point forever.

Okay, so what are the implications?

I'll say one of the things that's interesting. A year ago, you had lots and lots of CEOs talking about how excited they were about AI and it was going to transform their business.

And about six months ago, they went completely silent.

That doesn't mean they don't believe in AI anymore.

It's that their PR department said, you better stop talking because we're going to lay off so many people. You don't want to be touting the beauty of AI just before we have massive layoffs across the board. A.I.'s coming. Even the head of Anthropics said that. Did he not? Yes. He said, he's talking about 10 to 20 percent in the next five years because even the coders, the people who wrote the code,

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