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Welcome to an HBO podcast from the HBO Late Month series, Real Time with Bill Ma.

All right.

Here we are with the Democratic Senator from California, Adam Schiff,

and the New York Times opinion columnist Brett Stevens.

Okay.

Here are the questions from the people. Senator Schiff, given the ongoing political tensions

and Trump's actions toward his critics,

do you think President Biden's preemptive pardons turned out to be more important than initially

expected? Let's first tell people what that means, preemptive pardons. That was pretty unprecedented,

right? Before he left office, Joe Biden pardoned you and a number of people who he thought Trump would go after.

No, I take the opposite view.

I don't think he should have given the pardons at all.

Really?

No, I don't think he should have, and I was vocal about that at the time.

Can you refuse a pardon?

That's less clear because in the case of the January 6th committee, he pardoned essentially the whole committee.

I see.

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