Welcome to an HBO podcast from the HBO late-night series Real Time with Bill Maugh.

All right, here we are at number 10, the executive vice president of the second

president of the National Policy and that's him with power on the split tablet magazine,

David Kirchick.

Here are the things people want to know, what explains Israel's intelligence value?

Yes, we never got to that.

Why?

I mean, wow.

I mean, Netanyahu was always the security guy.

I mean, people, oh, he's an asshole, but he's our asshole and he's going to keep us safe.

And Israel was always his main argument.

Yes, and always great at this kind of stuff.

And they have to be, they live in the roughest neighborhood in the world.

How did this happen?

Great question.

Well, I think there was the operational level where they took out some sensors, right?

And somehow the Israelis didn't see that.

But I think there was a larger strategic picture where they really did not think that Hamas

would attempt something like this.

They thought that Hamas was something that Hamas they could sort of deal with them in some way,

but they were letting in guest workers.

They were letting in guest workers that you must not be so irrational or suicidal.

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