Welcome to an HBO podcast from the HBO late night series Real Time with Bill Maugh.

Are we on overtime?

All of the time we're doing it again.

First of all, thank you for coming back.

I know you were gonna come from the bubble there.

Let's see how it goes.

But as a Republican, I gotta say, this is a rising star in your party.

I know what when I see it, I've been doing this a long time.

Very good.

Okay, all right. So first question is for you.

What's the role of government in policing big tech?

Oh, well that opens up a can of worms.

But you write about that in your book a lot.

You're all over that.

Yeah, that's something people in both sides can agree about, I think, to a degree.

That big tech is date power.

To a little privacy.

So what is the role of government to police them?

Where are we?

We all from here about this thing.

Is it more like the post office or more like the utility?

The utility comes in here.

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