Welcome to an HBO podcast from the HBO late night series Real Time with Bill Maugh.

That's the very much funny.

Uh, Katherine, which economic threat is most likely to trigger the next recession?

Uh, Trump. Right now.

Normally, I would say presidents get too much credit when the economy is good, too much blame when the economy is bad.

Uh, I've been saying that for months when people asking about Trump versus Obama and the economy and whatever else.

But Trump is making so many unforced errors at this point.

Uh, everything from the trade wars plural to the government shutdown, to threatening the independence of the federal reserve.

I've amazed it's elested this long.

Well, I mean, in a sense, it's surprising statistically because this is now the second longest recovery on record in history, in all of history.

So it's like a little long in the tooth, no matter what.

It's surprising that it still stuck around given all of the policy errors that Trump has made.

So that's what I'm worried about.

And we don't have a lot of money to bail banks out like we did last time.

Or partly because we just spent $2 trillion on a tax cut.

Is your law with your name on it still working?

Or did they didn't go to shape?

They didn't.

They weren't able to.

What they're able to do in the particular with the consumer bureau is to not administer it.

But they didn't even dare try to change it.

And it's still mostly in in good shape.

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