Welcome to an HBO podcast from the HBO late-night series Real Time with Bill Maugh.

Okay, all right, we're back on the Internet. Let's go. Okay, Gary, what's the best way that America can harm Putin's interest?

Yeah, how do we get him? How do we get on the offensive?

So, there you have sanctions, and you can tighten the news. Its sanctions have been biting, and it's very important that the Congress will guarantee that there's no way for Trump to leave them.

Go green. All this money comes from oil. We got off the oil. He's starve, right?

That's not... That's not... That's... That's... That's... That's many ways because, you know, he depends very much on the outside world.

Right.

And it's very important that America shows this political will to oppose him.

We also start supporting our NATO allies again, right? Rather than drawing ourselves closer to Russia's fronts.

Okay, so Van, Steve, do you think the media should change the way it covers President Trump?

Yes.

Look, I...

You got your boy back in the room now, right?

A good thing. A good thing. A good thing.

And that's a very good thing.

Yeah, look, I...

I think there's a lot of actually amazing good stuff that happens in the country that we don't get a chance to talk about because, you know, he just wakes up in the morning, tweets out some crazy stuff, and most of us wake up in the morning, pick up our phone, and then freak out for the next 18 hours, and then go to bed.

So, I think if we could just give him a little bit less of the oxygen and give... Actually, I don't know, real people doing real stuff more time and be better.

That's not going to happen.

That's not going to happen because your network and every network now has to report to the boardroom.

They have to make a profit, and profit means more eyeballs.

And to get more eyeballs, they do bullshit.

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