Welcome to an HBO podcast from the HBO late-night series Real Time with Bill Maher.

Here we are in overtime. Vigo, is there any historical figure in American

politics who you could see yourself portraying in a film? Anybody you would

admire? No? Really? You don't admire George Washington? No. Why? Because he was a slave

holder? Yeah. Pecky. So you don't go with the argument then it was just the

way things were done back then. That's not a good enough reason.

Yeah. All right.

Jalani, is it fair to compare the tactics of black lives? So I'm guess Mitt Romney is

completely out. Is it fair to compare the tactics of black lives matter to

occupy Wall Street? Who's doing that? Yeah, I don't know that that's the case. I

mean aside from them both being protest movements on the left I don't know

that you say that there's a whole lot of basis for comparison. Another thing I

think is that black lives matter has a organizational structure that's kind of

become increasingly defined as time has gone on and that didn't really happen

so much when I occupied. Okay. Frank, do you think Hillary or more? No more. You

killed me already. Frank, you came out very feisty. I died. I know I died. No, no,

you did that was very entertaining television. Was that not entertaining?

No, honestly, I mean you just came out loaded for bear. I don't know why. I mean I've

been known you for a long time. You've been on this show. You used to consult on

this show. You just you know that's fine but you you you you you you you keep my

ass but I still have a gift for you. I didn't kick your ass but you did have

feisty with your go to them. What does that say? I already hate our notes.

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