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Magical Overthinkers

Overthinking About Workaholism

Magical Overthinkers

Amanda Montell & Studio71

Education, Science, Society & Culture

4.3636 Ratings

🗓️ 18 February 2026

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

This week, Amanda is joined by psychologist and bestselling author Guy Winch (@guywinch) to overthink workaholism. Why being “busy” feels virtuous, why burnout can masquerade as success, and how overworking often hides deeper emotional needs. Together, they unpack the psychology behind overwork and the quiet ways it can become a socially acceptable addiction. The conversation offers a new lens on why so many of our attempts at “work/life balance” leave us feeling even more depleted and what it might actually take to build a life that feels sustainable instead of performative. A reflective spiral about rest, self-worth, and learning that you are more than what you produce.  - Join the "Magical Overthinkers Club" by following the pod on Instagram @magicaloverthinkers. - To access early, ad-free episodes and more, subscribe to the Magical Overthinkers Substack. - Pick up Amanda's book The Age of Magical Overthinking: Notes on Modern Irrationality, or listen to the audiobook. Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial period at https://SHOPIFY.COM/magical To learn more about how to support Minnesota’s immigrant communities, check out this MSP Mag article, which shares several ways to offer help or find support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:31.6

Welcome to the magical overthinkers podcast, a show for thought spirals, exploring the subjects we can't stop overthinking about. From going no contact with family members to revenge. If you ever get the feeling that

0:40.1

despite living in the information age, the world only seems to be making less sense, or that

0:45.8

there's just simply something especially hard about existing as a human in the world at this

0:50.9

particular time in history, then you're in the right place. This podcast is

0:55.8

here to take the temperature down on our overheated minds for a little while. I'm your host,

1:01.9

Amanda Montel. Today, we're overthinking about workaholism. For those watching on YouTube, I am currently wearing my emotional support hoodie.

1:15.6

Sometimes I trick myself into thinking that I'm lounging even when I'm working just by my sartorial choices.

1:21.6

Like, I'm not working if I'm wearing a hoodie.

1:24.6

I'm only working if I'm wearing a blazer. Not true,

1:28.6

but this is some of the psychological contortionism that self-identified workaholics may relate to.

1:35.0

Now, we have a very special expert guest joining us today for our interview. His name is Dr. Guy

1:42.1

Wynch. He's a psychologist and the author of a brand new book titled

1:45.9

Mind Over Grind, How to Break Free When Work Hijacks Your Life. But before we get into our conversation

1:52.0

with him, before I relay many of the anonymous thought spirals submitted by you listeners,

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