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Magical Overthinkers

Overthinking About Laziness

Magical Overthinkers

Amanda Montell & Studio71

Education, Science, Society & Culture

4.3636 Ratings

🗓️ 14 May 2025

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

What even is laziness? A moral failing? A personality flaw? Or just capitalism talking? In a culture obsessed with productivity and grindset mentality, the fear of being perceived as “lazy” runs deep—and it’s often weaponized against people who are overwhelmed, burnt out, or simply existing outside the hustle.To help us rethink laziness from a more philosophical (and compassionate) perspective, host Amanda Montell (@amanda_montell) is joined by Ellie Anderson (@ellieanderphd), philosopher, college professor, and co-host of the podcast Overthink. Together, they explore where our cultural obsession with busyness comes from, how laziness intersects with class and race, and why doing nothing might just be the most radical act of all.Further listening: Overthink podcast with Ellie Anderson and David Peña-Guzmán. - Join the "Magical Overthinkers Club" by following the pod on Instagram @magicaloverthinkers.- To access early, ad-free episodes and more, subscribe to the Magical Overthinkers Substack.- Pick up a hard copy of Amanda's book The Age of Magical Overthinking: Notes on Modern Irrationality, or listen to the audiobook. Stop putting off those doctors appointments and go to⁠ https://Zocdoc.com/MAGICAL⁠ to find and instantly book a top-rated doctor today Get your summer savings and shop premium wireless plans at https://MINTMOBILE.com/magical  Make this spring your most delicious yet with Green Chef. Head to https://greenchef.com/50MAGICAL and use code 50MAGICAL to get 50% off your first month, then 20% off for two months with free shipping. Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial period at⁠ https://SHOPIFY.COM/magical⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Guess what? The thought spirally wonders of the magical overthinkers podcast are coming to the

0:09.1

real world with a very exciting live podcast show on Monday, June 9th in Los Angeles, California.

0:15.7

The show is called The Big Magical Cult Show, and it is like a live podcast on hallucinogens, where we discuss some of

0:23.4

the subjects that you might hear on a regular episode, alongside some truly magical elements

0:29.3

that can't be described they can only be experienced, including drag and burlesque performances,

0:35.5

cheeky custom drinks and merch, a parisocial PowerPoint presentation,

0:40.6

audience participation involving anonymously submitted thought spirals, and so much more.

0:46.0

There's also going to be a meet and greet and a book signing for my second book cultish,

0:50.1

which is finally coming out in paperback. So come spiral with us at the Big Magical Cult Show

0:55.1

on Monday, June 9th at the Elray Theater in L.A.

0:58.0

You can find the ticket link at Amanda Montel.com slash events.

1:01.4

Snag your tickets before they sell out,

1:03.2

and we hope you come spiral with us.

1:08.0

Hey listeners, it's Amanda.

1:10.2

I want to tell you about another podcast that I think you'll enjoy.

1:12.6

It's called Deep Cover, The Truth About Sarah.

1:16.6

In this season of Deep Cover, you'll hear the story of Sarah Kavanaugh.

1:20.6

Sarah was many things to the people she met.

1:22.6

A decorated veteran, a Marine who saved her comrades, a young woman fighting cancer. Sarah was

1:28.9

everything people wanted her to be, until she wasn't. Turns out, no one knew the real Sarah.

1:35.0

Not her comrades, not her wife, no one. On this season of Deep Cover, Pulitzer Prize-winning writer

1:41.8

Jake Halpern and acclaimed investigative journalist Jess McHugh

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