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Magical Overthinkers

Overthinking About Going "No Contact"

Magical Overthinkers

Amanda Montell & Studio71

Education, Science, Society & Culture

4.3636 Ratings

🗓️ 16 April 2025

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

The decision to cut someone out of your life—whether a parent, a sibling, or a once-close friend—can feel both deeply necessary and impossibly fraught. But why does going no contact inspire so much shame, confusion, and second-guessing, especially when it’s often a tool for self-preservation? What does it really mean to choose absence over obligation? In this episode, host Amanda Montell (@amanda_montell) is joined by Jeanette Tran, a professor at Drake University who explores the complexities of estrangement through an unexpected lens: Shakespeare. Drawing from centuries-old drama, Jeanette helps us parse why going no contact still feels so taboo, how literature mirrors (and sometimes distorts) our ideas of family and forgiveness, and why choosing peace can be the most radical act of all. Further reading: Jeanette Tran’s essay “As more Americans go ‘no contact’ with their parents, they live out a dilemma at the heart of Shakespeare’s ‘King Lear’” in The Conversation.   - Join the "Magical Overthinkers Club" by following the pod on Instagram @magicaloverthinkers. - To access early, ad-free episodes and more, subscribe to the Magical Overthinkers Substack. - Pick up a hard copy of Amanda's book The Age of Magical Overthinking: Notes on Modern Irrationality, or listen to the audiobook. Thanks to Our Sponsors: Stop putting off those doctors appointments and go to https://Zocdoc.com/MAGICAL to find and instantly book a top-rated doctor today Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial period at https://SHOPIFY.COM/magical Thrive all year with clean, easy meals from Green Chef. Go to https://GreenChef.com/magicalfree and use code magicalfree to get started with FREE Salads for two months plus 50% off your first box. No matter how you say it, don’t overpay for it. Shop plans at https://MINTMOBILE.com/magical Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Guess what? The thought spirally wonders of the magical overthinkers podcast are coming to the

0:09.1

real world with a very exciting live podcast show on Monday, June 9th in Los Angeles, California.

0:15.7

The show is called The Big Magical Cult Show, and it is like a live podcast on hallucinogens, where we discuss some of

0:23.4

the subjects that you might hear on a regular episode, alongside some truly magical elements

0:29.3

that can't be described they can only be experienced, including drag and burlesque performances,

0:35.5

cheeky custom drinks and merch, a parasycial PowerPoint presentation,

0:40.6

audience participation involving anonymously submitted thought spirals, and so much more.

0:46.0

There's also going to be a meet and greet and a book signing for my second book cultish,

0:50.1

which is finally coming out in paperback. So come spiral with us at the Big Magical Cult Show

0:55.1

on Monday, June 9th at the Elray Theater in L.A.

0:58.1

Artist presale starts April 15th at 10 a.m. West Coast time.

1:01.5

Just use the password cult to buy your tickets,

1:04.0

and then general on sale starts on Friday, April 18th.

1:06.9

You can find the ticket link at Amanda Montel.com slash events.

1:10.4

Snag your tickets before they sell out, and we hope you come spiral with us.

1:20.9

Welcome to The Magical Overthinkers Podcast, a show for thought spirallers, exploring the subjects we can't stop overthinking about,

1:29.6

from imposter syndrome to people pleasers. If you ever get the feeling that despite living in

1:35.4

the information age, life only seems to be making less sense. Or if you identify as a thought

1:41.3

spiraller, a dreamer, someone who lives in their head, then you're in the right place.

1:47.0

This podcast is here to soften the clash between the innately irrational ways in which our brains work and the overwhelm of this time.

1:56.0

I'm your host, Amanda Montel. Today, we're overthinking about going no contact.

2:07.6

Personally, I first became familiar with this phrase going no contact. About three years ago,

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