Hub and spoke. Audio Collective. A few weeks ago, I hiked up a 14er in Colorado. 14ers are mountains that are at least 14,000 feet tall. And it was gorgeous, panoramic views of snow-capped peaks in every direction. And so as I'm hiking,

I'm looking at these peaks and I'm trying to figure out which one is which. And I'm pretty

sure I can pick out Mount Albert, which is the tallest mountain in Colorado, and Mount Massive,

which is number two, but I'm not 100% sure. So at the summit, I pull out my phone and

open up PeakVisor. PeakVisor is our presenting sponsor this season. Their app helps you

identify mountains when you're out on adventures. When you open the app, it determines where you

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Hi, I'm Willow Belden and you're listening to Out There, the podcast that explores big questions through intimate stories outdoors. Most of us have felt a sense of imposter syndrome at some point in our lives.

Often it's at work where you feel like you don't deserve your own accomplishments.

Like you're not as smart or talented as people think.

But it can happen in other parts of life too.

This story is about what happens when you feel like a fraud simply for being yourself.

We'll travel from New York State to a national park in Korea and explore how one woman

ultimately made peace with her own identity.

Katie Ruther has the story. Growing up in Western New York, Shannon Tio felt like just another Italian-American kid.

In elementary school, she remembers being driven home by a friend's parents.

And I remember my friend's mother asking what ethnicity I was or something along the lines of that.

And I remember responding, oh, I'm half Italian and I'm half Irish with a little bit of French Canadian.

Her friend's mother smiled politely and left it at that.

And I obviously knew I was adopted from Korea, but I just didn't have the wherewithal yet to wrap my mind around the fact of what she was actually asking me.

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