Thank you for joining us for episode 486 of Live Happy Now.

Furnout and stress continue to create tremendous challenges at home and on the job.

So this week, we're looking at how we can reclaim our joy and energy.

I'm your host, Paula Phelps, and this week I'm talking with clinical psychologist Chris

Ghermer, who, along with researcher Kristen Neff, developed the world-renowned Mindful Self-Compassion

program.

Their third co-authored book, Mindful Self-Compassion for Burnout, looks at how self-compassion

can help overcome burnout and offers simple anti-burnout

tools to de-stress, recharge, and develop your inner kindness. Chris is here to explain what's causing

our burnout and what we can do about it. Let's have a listen. Chris, thank you so much for joining me

on Live Happy Now. Thanks.

It's great to be here, Paula.

Thanks for inviting me.

Once again, you and Kristen have tackled a really big topic, and that is self-compassion.

You've done so much in the past to bring awareness to it.

Just so we're all on the same page, can you talk about what we're meaning when we say mindful self-compassion? Well, we could spend the whole hour on that one.

I'll start with the easy questions, right? Try to keep it brief. Yeah, so mindfulness is a part of

self-compassion, at least as Kristen Neff has defined the term, which is used in most of the research.

But we say mindful self-compassion just to kind of highlight that self-compassion really is

anchored in mindfulness or awareness of what we're experiencing.

Self-compassion means basically being as kind and understanding toward ourselves when we suffer as we would toward a good friend,

which is not what we usually do.

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