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Outward: The Viral Underclass, by Steven W. Thrasher

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🗓️ 17 August 2022

⏱️ 85 minutes

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Summary

This month, host Christina Cauterucci, Jules Gill-Peterson, and Bryan Lowder start the show with a Thots & Queries segment in which a listener asks about orgy etiquette. In a completely different party setting, they try to figure out what on earth is going on in the U.S. Congress, where legislators are debating marriage equality in the form of the Respect for Marriage Act. Then Northwestern University professor and journalist Steven Thrasher joins them to discuss his new book The Viral Underclass: The Human Toll When Inequality and Disease Collide. Finally, they add some new items to the gay agenda. Items discussed in the show: Taylor Blake and her emu friend Emmanuel Beyoncé’s Renaissance A shocking tweet from the official Log Cabin Republicans account The June 29 episode of Outward in which Mark Joseph Stern considered how the Dobbs decision might affect LGBTQ rights “Why Is There More Republican Support for Gay Marriage Than for Abortion Rights?” by Moira Donegan, in the Nation The Viral Underclass,, by Steven Thrasher Let the Record Show, by Sarah Schulman “An Uprising Comes From the Viral Underclass,” by Steven Thrasher in Slate, June 12, 2020   Gay Agenda Jules: X, by Davey Davis Bryan: The Sandman, on Netflix Christina: “We Failed,” by Eric Neugeboren, in the Texas Tribune   This podcast was produced by June Thomas. Please send feedback, topic ideas, and advice questions to outwardpodcast@slate.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to Outward Slate's podcast about queer culture, politics, and the occasionally spicy, often catty, but always cute, LGBT conversation. And just so we're all clear, I recently learned that it actually stands for Liberty, guns, beer, and Trump. I don't know if you guys... And Q&ON. And Q&ON. That's right. The cue is Q&O. Yeah, I didn't know that, but I'm glad to have learned something new. I'm Brian Lauder and I edit Outward, among other things, at Slate. And I am Jules Gil Peterson. I'm Christina Cauterucci, a senior writer at Slate. All right. So we've got a lot to cover on the show today.

0:55.0

And honestly, it's like too damn hot outside for like lengthy thematic intros.

1:00.0

So I'm just going to get right into it.

1:02.0

So first up, we'll scratch our heads collectively at what's been happening in the U.S. Congress with same-sex marriage.

1:08.0

In case you haven't heard about it, there's a bill called the Respect for Marriage Act that is currently awaiting a Senate vote, and it's already passed the

1:14.5

House, that would protect marriage equality sort of on a federal level and require states

1:20.4

to recognize marriages performed in other states. This is sort of how it would work. And it would

1:24.7

also do this, even if the Supreme Court overturned the

1:29.0

2015 or Bergerfeld decision, which legalized gay marriage across the country. And as we know,

1:36.3

with what just happened with Roe v. Wade, that seems entirely possible. The weird thing is about

1:42.3

this bill is that there may actually be enough Republican support

1:46.0

for it to pass. So we're going to try to figure out how that happened and how it fits into the

1:51.0

rights otherwise extremely hostile stance towards queer and trans people of late. Then in something

1:57.5

of a follow-up to our segment last month on the Monkey Pocs outbreak, we're going to be joined by journalist and professor Stephen Thrasher to discuss his excellent

2:05.8

and just super timely new book, The Viral Underclass, The Human Toll when inequality and

2:11.1

disease collide.

2:13.1

All of that will be buttressed by our usual prides and provocations and updates to the gay

2:17.4

agenda. But first, we updates to the gay agenda.

2:18.5

But first, we get to hear from you in this month's edition of thoughts and queries.

2:24.1

I'm very excited this month.

2:25.5

We have a fascinating advice question from a listener that I think we will all have a lot to say about.

2:31.7

So I'm just going to read, I'll read the question, and then we can dive in. A friend of mine recently threw a party during Pride Month,

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