The Hello and welcome to Outward, Slate's LGBT-PODcast. I'm Daisy Rosario and I'm a senior

supervising producer here at Slate sitting in for our host Brian and Christina who are

sick and Jules who is getting in the swing of the new semester. They will be

back in their seats as soon as possible. Now that we are in September, the election is imminent.

I mean, we've been hearing about it for what feels like forever to me,

but we can also finally see it on the horizon.

Last month, the Democrats held their convention in

Chicago and there was a lot of attention on things like the music choices for the

roll call including Little John repping for Georgia and also the Beyoncé

rumor that took over the internet on the final night of the convention.

But because of Biden dropping out in July, this convention also became a de facto kick off of

Kamala Harris's presidential campaign in a way that it is usually not.

A few people from Slate were on the ground in Chicago reporting and today I'll be talking to one of them

about some of the queer moments that didn't get as much attention online during or post-convention

and what those moments tell us about the Harris campaign's positions on queer issues.

We're going to take a quick break and when we come back I'll be joined by Madeline Ducharm one of our what next producers and we're going to dive right into what it was like on the ground in the city of Chicago and what she saw inside of that arena. We'll be right back. Welcome back to Outward. I'm joined now by Madeline Desharm. Madeline is a producer on what next our daily news show and has written articles for slate about things like the W&B.

Madeline, thanks for joining me.

Hey, thanks so much for having me, Daisy.

I'm so glad to be here.

So obviously the DNC happened.

We've looked at those moments.

You know, we've now already been through a presidential debate and you know we can see this

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