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The Waves: Gender, Relationships, Feminism

Outward: The "Family" Edition

The Waves: Gender, Relationships, Feminism

Slate Podcasts

Health & Fitness, News Commentary, Society & Culture, Sexuality, News

4.2897 Ratings

🗓️ 21 November 2018

⏱️ 73 minutes

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Summary

This month on Outward, hosts Christina Cauterucci, Bryan Lowder, and New America’s Brandon Tensley explore the meaning of family. How do gay people form their own families and create spaces from those bonds of kinship? First they play a game with Slate’s June Thomas, deciding whether fictional characters are members of the queer clan; then they each discuss the types of families they’ve created. They get a call from Lillian Faderman and her wife Phyllis Irwin about the legal journey of their relationship since the 1980s, and then Slate’s Mark Joseph Stern joins the hosts to talk about the different legal options LGBTQ people have to build families together.

This podcast was produced by Daniel Schroeder.


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0:00.0

You're listening Ad-Free on Amazon Music.

0:14.4

Hello, and welcome back to Outwards Slate's LGBTQ podcast.

0:18.6

I'm Brandon Tensley, the associate editor at New America, and a contributing

0:21.9

writer at Pacific Standard Magazine. And I'm bewitched by Tilda Swinton and masculine drag in

0:27.6

Suspheria, which I've now devoured twice in the past week. I'm Christina Cotteroochie, a staff

0:33.9

writer at Slate and host of The Waves, Slate's podcast about women and gender. And this season,

0:39.0

I am thankful for hot toddies and legal weed. And I'm Brian Lauder, editor of Outward, and I'm still

0:46.0

shook from election night, could not believe how shady Nancy Pelosi's grandchild was being to her on stage.

0:53.6

Did y'all see those eyes rolling?

0:55.9

Yeah, they were, it actually looked kind of out of place to me. I didn't realize who those two

1:00.8

children were just sort of like watching the telephone on mute. It was like all of these old

1:04.9

ass members of Congress and then these children. No, the one in the front was just really giving

1:09.8

it to her. It was hard to pay attention to our presumptive speaker. But anyway, future Republican.

1:17.3

So it's November, that time of year when we're slowly, reluctantly awakening from our

1:23.3

Halloween candy comas and preparing for the holidays. For lots of folks, that probably means

1:29.6

preparing to spend lots and lots of time with their families. But we here at Outward have to ask

1:35.2

with the side of gay SaaS, what is family really? What are its possibilities? On this

1:41.5

month's episode, we're going to challenge the prevailing cultural expectations

1:44.8

that exist around family by talking about chosen families, those social units that many queer

1:50.0

people put together out of necessity. We'll play a game to suss out if some of our favorite

1:55.3

fictional figures are queer family before diving into how we cobbled together our own chosen

2:00.3

families. Then we'll chat with

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