You're going to be. Hello and

welcome to Outward, Slate's podcast about queer life, culture politics,

and today, spirituality. I'm Brian Lauter I'm editor at Slate and this week we've got a

story of queer resistance and a place maybe you would necessarily expect it the

southern Christian church. Before we get to that I just

expect it, the southern Christian church.

Before we get to that, I just wanted to flag

in case you've missed her like I have,

that Jules will be back next week, yay.

And also just a reminder to please send us advice questions

and topic ideas for future shows now that we're weekly, we have a lot more room to cover the queer waterfront as they call it, I think.

So let us know what you'd like us to take on, whether it's serious, silly or anything in between.

You can always do that at outward podcast at slate.com.

All right, we need to take a quick break, but we'll be back with more after that.

All right, we're back. So for the past few years, we spent a lot of time talking

about the religious rights war on trans and queer people in the US through

increasingly aggressive legislation in red states that is designed to limit or

and access to necessities like medical care, government identification, restrooms as well well as to ban queer affirming books,

drag story hours, and all the rest.

You know, you know, we've been talking about it on the show.

I've got at least four story drafts on my desk right now about all of the cruel things that Christian

conservatives are trying to do to queer people in this country and it is a lot but

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