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Outward: Summer's Swan Songs

Slate Culture

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Arts, Tv & Film, Music

4.42K Ratings

🗓️ 15 September 2021

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

Christina, Bryan and Slate Senior Managing Producer June Thomas say farewell to outgoing host Rumaan Alam, then welcome journalist Casey Newton to discuss Grindr's data security problem and its inherent potential for ruining self-esteem. They then delve into Todd Stephens' Swan Song, a beautiful new film about an old queen, his cross-town journey to find hair products fit for styling his dead client, and the closure it brings. Items discussed in the show: Swan Song, directed by Todd Stephens Gay Agenda Christina: Eric Cervini's Queer History 101 June: Olivia on the Record by Ginny Berson Bryan: two-room tents! This podcast was produced by Katya Kumkova. Please send feedback, topic ideas, and advice questions to [email protected]. Slate Plus members get bonus segments and ad-free podcast feeds. Sign up now. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the September edition of Outward. I'm Brian Lauder, editor of Outward,

0:22.0

and I'm here with your annual reminder that summer is not over until the 22nd of September,

0:28.0

exactly a week from when this episode drops. So don't let the haters tell you any different.

0:33.0

Thank you, Brian. I needed that. Yeah. I'm Christina Cotterucci, a senior writer at Slate,

0:38.8

and I would like to extend a hearty welcome to the person who recently posted on the DC Queer Exchange

0:45.7

Facebook group that she was giving away some of her pride gear, free to a good home,

0:49.8

including her by pride flag. Nothing wrong with the flag, she wrote. I'm just a lesbian now.

0:57.6

So I just want to take a moment to congratulate anyone who's changing flags these days,

1:02.7

whatever those flags may be. Yeah, I think that was really modeling good behavior,

1:08.1

and that arena. Nothing wrong with the flag. No, my definition has changed, and that's fine.

1:12.9

Everybody's great. Okay, so this is usually the point in the show where we share our

1:20.2

prides and provocations, but this month we've got a provocation to discuss that is so provoking,

1:28.8

that it's the only one we have the time or emotional energy honestly to handle.

1:34.2

Listeners, we are provoked profoundly by the sad and sorry fact that Ramon Alam, our beloved

1:41.4

co-host is leaving us. Ramon, why are you hurting everyone like those?

1:47.7

I'd like to call you in. I really thought you were winding up to talk about

1:54.1

Pete Buttigieg or something, a sort of more reliable provocation. I'm provoked by my own

2:01.4

departure from outward. It has been such a great period of time. I mean, how long? I think

2:06.6

has it been a year? I don't even. More than a year, because you were started before the pandemic,

2:11.7

I think. The pandemic is how I measure time now. That's right. Getting together once a month,

2:17.4

or once every couple of weeks to chat with you guys has been such a balm. It's technically

2:23.6

been work, but it's also just been really fun to kind of have someone who is not in my immediate

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