meta_pixel
Tapesearch Logo
Log in
Slate Daily Feed

Outward: Slate's LGBTQ podcast - Lesbians in Paris … and in Period Dramas

Slate Daily Feed

Slate

Business, News, Society & Culture

3.91.1K Ratings

🗓️ 21 April 2021

⏱️ 69 minutes

🧾️ Download transcript

Summary

This month, Christina, Bryan, and Rumaan are first joined by Diana Souhami, whose new book, No Modernism Without Lesbians, tells the story of Sylvia Beach, Bryher, Natalie Barney, Gertrude Stein, and the artistic community they built in Paris between the wars. Then June Thomas joins them for a discussion of the recent spate of period dramas featuring women in love. Why can’t the women in these films get a little electricity or running water?

Items discussed on the show: 

Dan D’Addario on Colton Underwood’s coming out, in Variety

Daniel Schroeder on what Underwood’s coming out revealed about the Bachelor franchise, in Slate

“Transgender Childhood Is Not a ‘Trend’,“ by Jules Gill-Peterson in the New York Times 

No Modernism Without Lesbians, by Diana Souhami

Saturday Night Live’s take on lesbian period dramas

Ammonite

Carol

Portrait of a Lady on Fire (and Slate Spoiler Special episode)

The World to Come


Gay Agenda

Bryan: The Lady and the Dale on HBOMax

Rumaan: Julie Mehretu’s exhibit at the Whitney Museum, and the New York Times T Magazine conversation between Mehretu and her former partner Jessica Rankin

June: The audiobook Hoosier Daddy, by Ann McMan and Salem West, and Not the Real Jupiter, by Barbara Wilson

Christina: Eye to Eye: Portraits of Lesbians, by JEB, and June’s interview with JEB on Slate’s Working podcast about the making of the book


This podcast was produced by Margaret Kelley.

Please send feedback, topic ideas, and advice questions to outwardpodcast@slate.com.

Slate Plus members get bonus segments and ad-free podcast feeds. Sign up now.


Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Transcript

Click on a timestamp to play from that location

0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the April 2021 edition of Outward. I'm Brian Louder, editor of Outward,

0:18.6

and I have a ruling from the Queer Council to deliver,

0:23.3

yes, very important, which is that while regular daffodils are exempt from identity politics,

0:29.5

those ones with the insane, gaudy, orange centers are officially gay.

0:33.9

It's honestly far, far too much, and we love you for it.

0:36.8

Thank you, orange daffodils. I always for it. Thank you, orange daffodils.

0:39.3

I always wondered why I was attracted to those daffodils.

0:43.1

I'm Christina Cotterucci, a senior writer at Slate, and because I preach the gospel of Lil Nas X,

0:50.7

I'll be spending the last few weeks of my post-vaccination life practicing the lap dance that I'll use to seduce and murder Satan himself.

1:00.9

I don't know about you guys.

1:04.6

I'm Ramon Alam. I am a co-host of this show and of Slates working.

1:10.9

And I have very little to say right now because I feel like I am on some kind of drug related to seasonal allergy.

1:19.0

Although I'm actually not taking, I'm not taking a drug, which might mitigate these particular symptoms.

1:23.4

But it feels like I'm looking at everything through a glass wall at the moment.

1:27.3

I feel absolutely crazy. But this two will pass like I'm looking at everything through a glass wall at the moment. I feel absolutely crazy.

1:29.3

But this two will pass.

1:31.4

I am looking forward to getting outside.

1:32.9

And like Christina said, post-Vax life is on its way.

1:35.9

And I'm, I don't know.

1:38.6

I feel it's like it's almost precipitated like a break, psychic break with the way I feel

1:44.1

of gratitude and just sort of like

1:46.4

the overwhelming feeling of what lies ahead for all of us. I'm so excited. Same. Yeah. My,

...

Please login to see the full transcript.

Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Slate, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.

Generated transcripts are the property of Slate and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.

Copyright © Tapesearch 2026.