Outward: Slate's LGBTQ podcast - Julien Baker’s Quantum Queerness and Cops at Pride
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🗓️ 16 June 2021
⏱️ 65 minutes
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Summary
It’s Pride month, which means Outward is feeling particularly festive! Christina, Bryan, and Rumaan are joined by musician Julien Baker to discuss her feelings about Pride, queerness, fluidity, and ways of interpreting queer art. Then Jillian Hanlon, a trans cop in upstate New York, joins to offer her take on the recent debate over cops at Pride.
Items discussed on the show:
Skittles go gray for Pride month.
A Twitter thread about kink at Pride.
Out in the Country: Youth, Media, and Queer Visibility in Rural America, by Mary Gray
Julien Baker interview on Working
Julien Baker on the Queerology podcast
The October 2018 Outward episode that includes interviews with members of No Justice No Pride and Reclaim Pride
“A Mistep by the Organizers of Pride,” by the New York Times’ Editorial Board
“The New York Times Doesn’t Know What Pride Is For,” by J. Bryan Lowder, in Slate
Gay Agenda
Christina: Drew Gregory’s interview with Daniela Sea in Autostraddle
Bryan: Hola Papi, by John Paul Brammer
Rumaan: You are enough, queer comrades!
This podcast was produced by Margaret Kelley and June Thomas.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to this very special Pride Month edition of Outward, Slate's LGBTQ podcast. |
| 0:18.0 | We're especially excited for this episode, not just because it is gay Christmas, |
| 0:22.7 | and we've got some great presents for you, but also because we were kindly featured in a few |
| 0:27.6 | best queer pod lists and expect we've got a few new listeners. If that's you, we're super glad |
| 0:33.1 | that you're here. I think we should probably introduce ourselves. I'm Brian Lauder, editor of Outward, |
| 0:38.4 | and one of my partners just ordered five new wigs for the household with names like Cynthia, |
| 0:44.1 | Tulsa, and Malta. So clearly our pride is off to a solid start. Wow. How are you going to decide |
| 0:50.0 | who wears what? Well, I think it's sort of for the house. |
| 0:58.9 | So everybody can change based on their mood, yeah, that moment or day. |
| 1:02.5 | I'm Christina Cotarucci, a senior writer at Slate. |
| 1:09.1 | And now that we're finally going out dancing again, I have to say I would give my left arm for a cut of Montero, call me by your name, that's |
| 1:13.7 | longer than two minutes. |
| 1:14.9 | Not my right arm. |
| 1:15.8 | That's my good one. |
| 1:16.4 | But my left one, I will pay because Lil Nas X, why is that banger of a song so short? |
| 1:25.2 | It's like, I think it's under two minutes. It's homophobically short. |
| 1:30.1 | So listeners, if any of you are DJs, please send me your mixes. I need them. |
| 1:35.8 | Christina, that is just a condition of the modern attention span, you know, two minutes and you're done. |
| 1:42.6 | No, my booty is just getting started at a minute too. |
| 1:47.0 | I'm Ramon Alam. |
| 1:48.0 | I'm a writer and one of your outward co-hosts, and I am at the moment suffering from a case |
| 1:54.0 | of absolutely terminal senioritis. |
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