Hi, I'm Daisy from Slate's audio team. As Outward continues, it's summer hiatus, we are bringing

you another episode from a different Slate show about an issue that we know that outward listeners

would care to hear about. Today I'm bringing you an episode of What Next, which is Slate's daily

news show hosted by Mary Harris. In this episode, Mary talks to reporter Grace Byron, who has been covering the state of trans health care across the country during the Second Trump administration.

It's a really thoughtful conversation, and I think that outward listeners will be happy to hear Grace on the show.

We should have more information for you soon about when you can expect new episodes of Outward in your feed.

And in the meantime, thank you so much for listening.

Just a heads up, there are a couple of brief S words in this episode.

You've been warned.

Right off of Sunset Boulevard in Los Angeles, in front of a giant sculpture of some alphabet blocks, families have been gathering for months now.

They're there to protest what's happening at the Children's Hospital.

Protesters are holding a rally outside Children's Hospital, Los Angeles, after the hospital's decision to put a pause on hormonal therapy treatments for new transgender youth patients.

At first, these folks were showing up to try to ensure that the gender clinic that operated here, one of the oldest and largest in the country, would stay open for new patients.

These are teachers, these are parents, and they say they are fighting for life-saving medical care.

Then it became clear they were fighting for much more than that because this clinic was closing its doors for good.

When trans rights are rather intact.

What do we do?

We had to sit down with my daughter actually today, and it was hard.

It's hard to explain that there's people in the world that don't want her to see the doctor.

Children's Hospital, Los Angeles, now joins a growing list of youth gender clinics that are winding down the services they offer.

In New York, NYU paused and then resumed some appointments. In Illinois, one hospital canceled surgeries for anyone under 19.

Another stopped prescribing hormones to minors. A lot of these hospitals are sort of citing that their funding could be pulled, and if they lose this funding, they would have to close the hospital at large,

...