Outward: Slate's LGBTQ podcast - Debating Queer History in Bros and at the Library of Congress
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🗓️ 19 October 2022
⏱️ 84 minutes
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Summary
Bryan Lowder is still out on book leave, but hosts Christina Cauterucci and Jules Gill-Peterson summon him back to discuss Bros, the gay rom-com of the moment. The film lingers on questions of queer history, shows what happens when a nerdy podcast guy dates a beefy gay bro, and is a fascinating meditation on what it means to be a cis gay man in a time of both progress and prosecution. (This segment lasts around 31 minutes if you want to skip ahead to avoid Bros spoilers.) Then they are joined by Meg Metcalf, an LGBTQ collections specialist at the Library of Congress, to discuss how the world’s biggest library is surfacing the plentiful LGBTQ resources that can be found in its building and in cyberspace. Finally, they add some new items to the gay agenda.
Items discussed in the show:
The Problem With Jon Stewart, “The Problem With Gender”
“Why Jon Stewart’s Humiliation of an Anti-Trans Official Is So Important,” by Evan Urquhart in Slate
A new report from the Human Rights Campaign and Bowling Green State University
“Billy Eichner’s Curious Claims About Bros,” by J. Bryan Lowder in Slate
“Was Eleanor Roosevelt a Lesbian?” by Heather Schwedel, in Slate
The Library of Congress’ Collections Policy Statement for LGBTQIA+ studies
If you have a question for Meg, or other Library of Congress librarians, go to ask.loc.gov
Chronicling America, the Library of Congress’ database of historic newspapers
Gay Agenda
Christina: The episode of NPR’s Code Switch in which Kumari Devarajan profiled comedian and playwright D’Lo, who has a role in Bros
Jules: Faltas: Letters to Everyone in My Hometown Who Isn’t My Rapist, by Cecilia Gentili
This podcast was produced by June Thomas.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to Outward. I'm Jules Gopiterson, and any resemblance to Alvira mistress |
| 0:23.0 | of the dark this month is purely coincidental, or so my lawyers have told me. |
| 0:28.5 | And I'm Christina Cauterucci, a senior writer at Slate. And I don't know if you all |
| 0:34.8 | knew this. Listeners, Jules, I'm sure you didn't know this, because it doesn't get as much |
| 0:39.4 | fanfare as pride. But October is LGBT History Month. Can you believe we get two months out |
| 0:48.2 | of the year just for us? It's truly an embarrassment of months. We're so lucky. And they're perfectly |
| 0:56.7 | aligned with the weather. June is when you want to strip down to your undies for pride. |
| 1:02.6 | And in October, you just want to bundle up in a quaint little library with a history book. |
| 1:08.8 | So in that spirit, we have a cozy, autumnal episode for you this month that will pair |
| 1:15.8 | exquisitely with your cable nits, your fire pits, your negroni smog gliados with Perseco |
| 1:22.9 | and then. So first of all, Brian is still out allegedly writing his book, but we're |
| 1:30.1 | going to be barging into his study to drag him back on the show for a discussion of bros, |
| 1:35.0 | the gay romcom written by and starring Billy Eichner, which is in theaters now. |
| 1:40.4 | Then we have a special guest from the Library of Congress, Meg Metcalfe. They're a librarian |
| 1:47.3 | and LGBTQ plus studies collection specialist at the Library of Congress. And they'll talk |
| 1:54.0 | us through the process of recording and remembering LGBTQ history. They're also going to introduce |
| 2:00.8 | us to some queer and trans gems that the library has in its collection. You know, it's not |
| 2:06.8 | just crystal flutes and all. But before all that, I want to shout out this submission that |
| 2:12.3 | we got to our thoughts and queries in box. Listener Bonnie Raymond wrote in to set me straight, |
| 2:20.0 | as it were, about something that I said in our segment about a league of their own. So just |
| 2:25.9 | to recap, I was sort of rolling my eyes at the modern day lingo and dialogue in the series, |
| 2:32.4 | including the word problematic. Well, Bonnie, hopefully informed me that problematic, |
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