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Outward: Slate's LGBTQ podcast - Barrett, Biden, and Backwards Bryan

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🗓️ 18 November 2020

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

This month, Christina, Bryan, and Rumaan speak with Ria Tabacco Mar, the ACLU’s director of the Women’s Rights Project, about what the future for LGBTQ people looks like with president-elect Biden and an even more conservative Supreme Court. Then they discuss Uncle Frank, a film from Alan Ball about a gay man and his partner on a road trip with his niece from Manhattan to South Carolina in the 1970’s. They talk about how this differs from last month’s Boys In the Band, and the importance of remembering past queer struggles.


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0:00.0

Hi there, and welcome to the November 2020 edition of Outward.

0:16.1

I'm Brian Louder, editor of Outward, and I'm honestly grateful this Thanksgiving

0:19.8

month for not having to cook so

0:21.6

freaking much of it. Tiny COVID-safe tables are in. I'm Christina Cotarucci, a staff writer at Slate,

0:28.5

and I don't know if you guys knew this, but it's my birthday month. I'm not usually a birthday

0:34.4

month person, but I feel like if there's any time to claim an entire month for a celebration, it's this November. And I don't want much for my birthday,

0:44.1

besides a cake from Ruman, because he apparently is an excellent baker. But what I do want is

0:49.2

just for the pandemic to be over, for Mitch McConnell to lose his job, for Trump to be out of office starting

0:55.9

tomorrow, and for a private audience with Tracy Chapman on my birthday night. But other than that,

1:02.5

you know, it's just nothing. Just your presence is my present. I think we can work on those

1:09.0

things. I'm Ramon Alam, and it is gratitude season, so I will note that I am grateful for my colleague, Christina Katerucci, and her birthday month.

1:19.3

But mostly just hearing you, Christina, enumerate all of the things that you truly want for your birthday.

1:25.4

Makes me remember that actually I feel really grateful right now.

1:29.3

Lockdowns are beginning again across the Atlantic Ocean.

1:34.0

There's a sense of sort of increasing stress on our hospital systems domestically.

1:39.8

It's tough. The days are shorter. They're colder, things feel a little grim, but I'm trying to

1:46.4

remember that we are just so goddamn lucky. We really are so goddamn lucky, at least in my family.

1:51.4

We have a place to be. We have our health. And I'm trying to really hold on to that, even as I

1:56.9

feel stressed about the question of whether or not my kids will continue going to school and

2:00.4

whether or not my husband will continue working. So I'm trying to hold on to that gratitude.

2:05.3

I mean, Thanksgiving is kind of an arbitrary and invented holiday, but I do think it has an

2:10.4

important thing to teach us, which is this, that we should feel grateful. Yeah, definitely.

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