Outward: Slate's LGBTQ podcast - A Postlude for 'When We All Get to Heaven'
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🗓️ 17 December 2025
⏱️ 30 minutes
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Summary
As When We All Get to Heaven wraps up, Christina sits down with series host Lynne Gerber and producer Siri Colom. They discuss how the church has changed, the value of fleeting queer spaces, and what a decade or more spent working on this story has meant to—and taught—them.
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| 0:32.5 | Hello and welcome to Outward. I'm Christina Cotterucci, a senior writer at Slate, and this is a special |
| 0:38.5 | conversation to close out our presentation of When We All Get to Heaven by Eureka Street Productions. |
| 0:44.7 | For the past two months, you've been listening to this remarkable series about a queer faith |
| 0:49.4 | community finding its way through an unprecedented crisis. You've heard members of the Metropolitan Community Church of San Francisco |
| 0:56.9 | come together in grief, in fear, in uncertainty, in healing. |
| 1:03.0 | You've gotten to know the faith leaders who counseled gay San Franciscans |
| 1:06.5 | in some of their darkest moments, |
| 1:08.8 | offering frameworks of understanding that help them confront |
| 1:11.8 | the unthinkable. And you've heard sermons, songs, and moments of levity that provided life-giving |
| 1:17.7 | sustenance. Today I'm joined by Lynn Gerber, the host of When We All Get to Heaven, as well as |
| 1:23.6 | producer Siri Colum, to talk about their takeaways from more than a decade of work on this |
| 1:28.6 | project. Lynn, Siri, it's so great to have you here. Thanks so much for having us. It's wonderful |
| 1:34.6 | to be here. So the theme of the final episode of when we all get to heaven is that AIDS isn't over. |
| 1:43.1 | You know, even as these new drugs began saving the lives of gay men |
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