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Outward | Slapping Leather: The Untamed History of the Gay Rodeo

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🗓️ 5 March 2025

⏱️ 40 minutes

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This week on Outward, host Christina Cauterucci talks to historian Rebecca Scofield about the new book, Slapping Leather: Queer Cowfolx at the Gay Rodeo. From rhinestone-studded chaps to the hard-won battles for inclusion, they explore how queer cowboys and cowgirls carved out space in the rodeo circuit, the gender politics at play in this community, and how the AIDS crisis shaped its trajectory. Plus, they dig into the current resurgence of cowboy aesthetics in queer culture and pop culture at large. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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At any given moment, there are up to 3,000 people in witness protection in the UK, giving up their

0:37.1

life for a new identity in a safe house.

0:40.8

But what happens when it all goes wrong?

0:45.3

Three shot, two male, one female.

0:47.6

And the detective inspector, Liz Nile.

0:49.4

It's a safe house.

0:50.6

Sheltering, a protective witness and his family.

0:52.8

Who did this?

0:53.5

I am going to find out a promise. Protection

0:56.0

coming soon on ITV1

0:58.1

and ITVX. Hello and welcome to Outward Slate's LGBTQ podcast.

1:20.0

I'm Christina Cauterucci, a senior writer at Slate.

1:23.5

And this week, we're talking about ropes, about leather, about tight levies and straining belt

1:32.4

buckles and sweaty shirtless men. That's right, you guessed it. We are taking a field trip to the

1:39.5

rodeo because I just read a book that I am dying to share with you all.

1:52.2

It came out last year and it gave me a look inside a queer subculture and history that I didn't even know existed.

1:57.0

It's called Slapping Leather, Queer Cow Folks at the Gay Rodeo.

1:59.0

Yes, that's Cow Folks with an X.

2:03.9

And it traces the history of the queer fascination with the trappings of country Western life and the rodeo groups that started forming post-stone wall just for gay people.

2:09.7

So on one hand, they've been social spaces and sometimes sexy spaces that allow queer people to

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