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Outward Pride Special: Why the Law Cares About Your Sex

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News, Society & Culture, Business

3.91.1K Ratings

🗓️ 17 June 2023

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

This month, to celebrate Pride, we’re bringing you some extra episodes of Outward. On Saturdays, we'll be sharing some great LGBTQ content from around the Slate podcast network. Today, it’s an interview from The Waves, Slate’s show about feminism and gender. In October 2022, Slate audience engagement editor Sol Werthan spoke with trans rights activist and author Paisley Currah about his book Sex Is as Sex Does, and why the state cares about gender. The Waves episode was produced by Cheyna Roth. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hi, it's Bluey Robinson here, now all you dessert devotees will know there's nothing better than tucking into a tub full of Ben and Jerry's.

0:06.5

But what I didn't know until recently is that they've only gone and taken it to the next level and created an ice cream Sunday experience in a tub.

0:13.8

They've got some of the chunkiest, swirliest flavours but the new Sunday's range has an awesome whipped ice cream topping that's covered in gooey sauce and chocolatey chunks.

0:22.1

Mmm, I'm really loving the new Dolcey Delicious Chocolate Cheesecake.

0:25.4

Mmm, mmm, oh man, you've got to try this.

0:28.4

Available now.

0:45.2

Hey out with listeners, happy Pride Month, producer June Thomas here with some news.

0:49.9

Once again this year, we're going to celebrate Pride by providing our listeners with some extra queer, extra episodes.

0:58.0

This year we'll have fresh new shows every Wednesday.

1:02.5

You'll still get the biggie on June 21st with Pride and Provocations, the gay agenda, all the usual fun.

1:09.0

But we'll provide short bursts of rainbow content throughout the month, including some really wonderful conversations with authors and activists and thinkers.

1:19.0

And on Saturday throughout June, we're also going to share some great LGBTQ content from around the Slate Podcast Network.

1:28.4

Today we wanted to highlight a really fascinating conversation from the Waves, Slate's podcast about feminism and gender.

1:36.8

Back in October 2022, Slate's audience engagement editor, Saul Wortham,

1:42.5

spoke with trans rights activist and author, Paisley Curra, about Paisley's book Sex Is As Sex Does.

1:50.3

Take a listen.

1:52.1

Right now in the US, trans people are a major bogeyman.

1:59.0

Gender identity, trans rights, non-binary people, they're all often treated as a punchline by the right,

2:05.3

and supposed proof that society is falling apart.

2:09.2

One common transphobic argument is that trans people are deceptive or even delusional,

2:14.3

because at the end of the day sex is this concrete, fixed, unchangeable thing,

2:19.4

and trans people are basically trying to override that reality.

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