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Outward Pride Special: Is “I Do” Best for You?

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🗓️ 7 June 2023

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

In celebration of Pride month, we’re bringing you some extra episodes of the Outward podcast. This week, host Bryan Lowder talks to Slate contributor John Culhane about his new book More Than Marriage: Forming Families After Marriage Equality. In the book, Culhane explores legal arrangements other than marriage that could protect people’s relationships and finances. While we might once have decried these options as consolation prizes, contracts such as designated beneficiary agreements offer exciting possibilities for queer and other nontraditional families. We'd love to hear about your Pride plans in this challenging year. Please send a voice memo, along with feedback, topic ideas, and advice questions to outwardpodcast@slate.com. Items discussed in the show: More Than Marriage: Forming Families After Marriage Equality, by John C. Culhane Gay Agenda John: Support your local drag performers. This podcast was produced by June Thomas. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to Outward Slate's podcast about queer life, politics, culture, and this month, our month, anything else we damn well, please. I'm Brian Louder, an editor at Slate, and I just saw Grace Jones live for the first time last night, and she hula hooped for like two songs straight without stopping, and I'm not sure my pride is going to get any better than that, y'all. I think that's it. Well, maybe except for these outward shows that we're doing. And that shows plural that we have planned for you this month. As we mentioned back in May,

0:42.4

throughout June, we're going to be bringing you three extra shorter Pride episodes each Wednesday,

0:47.2

in addition to our usual big show on the 21st. Christina Jules and I each picked our own subjects

0:52.4

and guests for these, and the lineup is very exciting. so definitely check your feeds regularly so you don't miss out.

0:58.7

Before I get to this week's topic, I just wanted to give you a little reminder that we want to hear from you.

1:03.9

That's right, you, the one being so cute and lovely listening to the best LGBTQ pod on the scene about how you're celebrating pride in this difficult

1:12.4

year for queer and trans family. I know my focus is going to be on demanding my space in the world

1:17.7

this pride. Some of that's going to be through dancing with the gays, but I'll also be marching

1:21.5

in the annual NYC drag march, which is the kind of ultra-queer unpermented space-claiming glittery protest that I feel

1:28.8

is really essential right now. We want to hear what you're doing, or maybe not doing, to celebrate

1:33.3

or mourn or otherwise mark this pride season. Send us a voice memo at outward podcast at slate.com,

1:39.7

and we'll play a few on the big show later this month. All right, regular listeners will probably know that I'm one of those annoying gays in a thruple,

1:49.6

or as we prefer to call it, a triad, and it's coming up on six years.

1:54.1

But before and on top of that, I'm married to the partner I had first,

1:57.9

something we did back in 2013 after Domen was struck down with a lot of political

2:02.0

ambivalence and primarily for health insurance reasons. Now we're thinking about what formalizing

2:06.9

our current relationship would look like, and while obviously we can do whatever we want ceremonially,

2:12.0

the government, as we've been told by a few kind but sort of shrugging lawyers, doesn't really

2:16.8

offer much beyond forming an LLC,

2:19.0

which isn't very romantic.

2:21.3

I share all of that by way of explaining my keen interest in our guests today, John G. Colhane.

2:27.5

John is a family law expert, professor and beloved slate contributor, and his new book,

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