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Slates Podcast for all things LGBT. I'm Jules Gil Peterson and you know I gotta say just as temperatures are finally dipping here in the mid-Atlantic where I live you know finally getting to be sweeter

I'll be so whether it is also that time of year where just every time I turn on the TV or the radio or go online

basically encounter the same three political ads over and over and over.

And you know, if you're tuning in from any number of places in the United States, maybe you too can relate.

It does kind of make this fall season, you know, a little less, I don't know, pumpkin spice and

it otherwise would be. Of course, electoral politics are relentless, but they are not the only form of political action out there.

And so in this episode, we're actually going to talk with two organizers of a Gender Liberation March that took place in Washington, D.C. a few weeks ago.

We're sitting down to chat with Raquel Willis and Elie L. Cruz. And it's a really interesting conversation that

reflects not just on, you know, some of the political stakes that are wound. conversation that

is reflects not just on you know some of the political stakes that are wound up in electoral politics things like abortion and medical transition that we've talked about

in a number of ways on this show before but it's kind of a more broad-ranging kind of conversation about the challenges of political strategy as such these days. So really kind of interesting type talking with both of them, so we're going to take a short break but when we

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