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Hi, and welcome to Outlaw, a podcast about how the law is used to crush dissent in the U.S.

I'm your host, Olive.

On the previous episode of Outlaw on It Could Happen here, we zoomed in on the legal repression of rapid responders in ICE-occupied Minneapolis.

On this episode, I'm joined by Bina, Joey, and Moe, movement attorneys based in New York,

Illinois, and California.

In this conversation, we zoom out to talk about the larger trend and repression of resistance to ice activity across the country and how to prepare for the long road ahead.

From the north, from the south, from everywhere.

Welcome to Outlaw to start. Could you all introduce yourselves the work you do and how it connects to the repression of anti-ice

protest activity. Okay, I guess we're going to start with the oldest here. My name's Joey Mogul.

I am based in Chicago. I am the director of movement partnerships at Movement Law Lab, which is a

national organization that is very much

in the anti-authoritarian fight in the nation. Prior to joining Movement Law Lab, I was at the People's Law

Office for over 26 years, where I did mostly civil rights litigation against law enforcement officials and

criminal defense of police violence survivors, as well as protesters and organizers. And at different

points have been proud to represent several organizers and many movements seeking justice and liberation.

I'm also part of Chicago Torture Justice Memorials and a board member of the Chicago Torture Justice Center and very much involved

in the movement for justice redress and particularly reparations for Chicago police torture survivors.

During the surge here in Chicago,

I was proud to work with a group known as the Black Community Care Collective,

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