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This is The Movies That Made Me with your hosts, Josh Olson and Joe Dante. Our guest, never heard of them before, never met him.

I was just, I was Googling him to get some information.

Chap named Charles Murray.

No, Charles would I go back to the last, not the first WGA strike.

The WGA strike before the last one, was it?

2007.

2007, 2008.

Yeah, we met on the line.

Been good friends ever since.

Charles is a great, he's a writer, showrunner, producer, director, does a lot of work in TV,

but, and this does pertain to what we're going to talk about, also works

in, like, real indie cinema. He's worked on shows like written on things like criminal

mind, sons of anarchy, Cage, currently the showrunner on the second season of Outer Range.

But he's also been chugging along in the in-between times making small financed or not self-finance

but almost right two of them have been self-financed uh yeah in indie films uh the first was

things never said which um or was the first year of things I saw and I loved.

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