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To keep extensive diaries of what he did going all the way back to before he was married. And so we were able to gather all his diaries.

There's no diaries existing during the period of the murder before or after. It's like those just disappeared. Gone.

Hi there, I'm Yardley. I'm Dan and I'm Dave and this is Small Town Dicks. Dave and I are identical twins and we're retired detectives from Small Town USA. Together we've investigated thousands of cases from petty theft to sex crimes, from child abuse to murder.

Every case in our podcast is told by the detective who investigated it, offering a rare personal account of how they broke the case. Names, places and certain details, including relationships have been altered to protect the privacy of the victims and their families.

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Today on Small Town Dicks we have the usual suspects. We have Detective Dave.

Present.

Present. Indeed you are. Present. And we have Detective Dan.

Hello team. Hello you and Small Town fan. We are so pleased to welcome back to the podcast. Retired Detective Lins.

Hello. Hello. Thank you so much for sitting down with us again. We always enjoy it. It's always my pleasure to be here with you guys.

Thank you. And so Lins, you have a really interesting case for us today. Tell us how this case came to you.

Well, as in my previous cases, it seems like I'm always sitting in the office when we get notified.

So this is July the 21st, 1989. It's a Friday, a little after 8 o'clock in the morning. So regular work day, people going to work.

And this witness drives by the victim's house and sees the victim standing in her driveway. This witness comes back about 15, 20 minutes later from a little errand she ran and sees the same woman lying in her driveway.

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