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And today I'm joined by Emma Marsh, who's the executive director of RSPB, and I'll explain why in a minute, and my husband,

Adam Nicholson. Lots of you have actually requested Adam to do more, so here he is, and the reason

that they're both here is it's January, and one of the key things, if you're into nature in January is the big

garden bird watch which is coming up on the 24th to the 26th of January and so we thought

it would be a really fun time to talk to Emma and get her to explain all about the bird watch

and why it's there, what it does,

the whole history of it. And then to move on and talk about really birds in the garden.

Adam has got a book coming out in the spring in April, which is primarily about birds in the wood

at Perch Hill, but he's also learnt a

huge amount about garden birds and has taught me a huge amount. So that's why he is joining us,

really. But so welcome Emma and welcome Adam. Hello. It's lovely to be here. Emma, will you

explain to all of us about the Big Garden Birdwatch?

Yeah, of course.

So the Big Garden Birdwatch was started back in 1979.

Basically, it started off with our youth manager.

So our youth manager had decided that it would be really great to get young members to count

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