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And today I'm joined by a very distinguished and interesting guest, Tim Smith, who you will all have heard of from his Cornish connections to

Helegan and to the Eden Project. And I was really keen to get Tim on. Actually, do you know, I met his daughter at Chelsea and I was chatting to her about Eden, etc. and all the new things. And we just chatted

away very happily. And it suddenly occurred to me that Tim would be wonderful to hear about on the podcast.

Welcome, Tim. How are you doing this morning? I am magnificent today. It's a lovely day and the

storm is not storming.

Oh, is it not? Gosh, we've still got storming here. I can tell you. Anyway, well, I would love

for those of you who don't know your sort of deeper biography. I mean, I don't think we need

to do the pop star and all that kind of stuff because, you know, there we are.

They can look that up.

But I'd love to hear how you got into Helegan first of all and then how that developed into Eden.

But almost more than anything, I'd love to hear what you're up to at the moment.

But yeah, so tell us about Helegan.

Well, in a nutshell, I got fed up with the music industry, moved to Cornwall,

decided to lead my life in a much more instinctive way,

spent all the money I'd made in the music industry on a money pit of a farmhouse,

and then decided I'd try and do something else. Someone delivered

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