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Our Thing with Sammy The Bull

'Our Thing' Season 3 - Episode 1 "Gotti Becomes The Boss"

Our Thing with Sammy The Bull

Sammy "The Bull" Gravano

True Crime, History, Society & Culture

4.85.4K Ratings

🗓️ 24 November 2021

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

The critically acclaimed podcast returns for a third season. Directed by: James Carroll. Sammy talks about life after the hit on Paul Castellano is complete.

Transcript

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0:00.0

One week after killing Paul Castelano, the boss of bosses, there would be no

0:05.9

negotiations, no torques, no sit-downs like normal. We would just kill you. We

0:14.7

wanted to send fear throughout the mafia. Unbeknownst to us, the hit itself sent

0:23.2

fear throughout the entire mafia. The way it was done in front of tens of

0:29.6

thousands of people. It shook the nation, it shook the state of New York, and it

0:38.6

shook all of Gozunosci.

0:44.6

For the first time ever, Sammy the Bull Gravano tells his story.

0:50.6

This is our thing.

1:08.6

New York, 1985.

1:12.6

One week after killing Paul Castelano, the boss of bosses, we go around to

1:20.4

the captains and we're talking to them about the head. We're sitting down with the

1:30.4

Cozyer, Joe Gallo. We're setting up an appointment in Caesar's East in Manhattan, a

1:41.6

restaurant that I owned. I was a piece of that restaurant.

1:46.4

We invited all the captains to come down. Whoever drove them, which would be a

1:55.7

made guy, would be allowed in the basement with them. Just the captains. Joe

2:04.2

Gallo would head the meeting, Frankie DeCicco, and John Gotti would sit on

2:10.4

either side. Me and Angelo would Jerio would stand behind the captains with guns.

2:20.4

I had people upstairs so the people who drove them there would be told you're

2:27.1

not allowed in the basement. If there was any kind of an issue I was called, I

2:32.9

would come up and tell them all you could do is stay and wait. One of the guys,

2:41.7

his uncle was Joe Acurri, who was a captain. He didn't come. He said he was in the

2:48.7

hospital. I guess they were so frightened of what was going on. He threw

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