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You're joined, as always, Ish, by Melbourne writer, Sarah MacDonald and producer, Ilish Gilligan.

Hello.

Hi, Gil. I'm so bloody excited for this episode.

We teased it out last week. But coming

up on today's show, we are discussing Amy O'Dell's new biography of Gwyneth Paltrow. Here's a

snippet from the blurb. This deeply researched and rigorously reported biography of Gwyneth Peltro

takes us inside the world of one of the most influential aspirational and polarizing celebrities of the last 30 years. We are going to tell you the biggest takeaways from the book. Don't stress if you haven't read it. We're kind of here to give you the 4-1-1. The biggest takeaways, our overall thoughts on it as a book, and also, I guess the ethics of biographies in general when someone doesn't take part.

But, Gil, I mean, where do you want to start today?

Because there is so much to get through.

There is a lot to get through.

I mean, Gweth Paltrow is a rich text as a concept.

Maybe we should start with background on the author.

So Amy O'Dell is a journalist and she's probably best known,

I would argue, for a biography of Anna Winter, which came out in 2022. Yes. Have you read that?

I actually haven't, but I know that you really liked it. I've really, really enjoyed it.

I thought that that biography gave me, I think, a really rich

understanding of Anna. It's a really big biography. It's much bigger than this one, actually.

Interesting. Longer life. Yeah. Longer life. I think with this biography, it was very much like

acting goop. And even though you could probably

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