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The Atlas Obscura Podcast

Our Material World with Ed Conway

The Atlas Obscura Podcast

SiriusXM Podcasts & Atlas Obscura

Places & Travel, Society & Culture

4.61.8K Ratings

🗓️ 19 September 2024

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

Dylan talks with journalist and author Ed Conway about three materials that our entire civilization depends on: salt, copper, and sand. They visit the biggest man-made hole on Earth, a salt mine large enough to fit the Eiffel Tower inside it, and a single mine in North Carolina that is essential to nearly all the world’s computer chips. If you want to learn more, check out Ed’s book: Material World: The Six Raw Materials That Shape Modern Civilization.

Transcript

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0:00.0

I want you to do something with me for a second.

0:07.0

Grab your phone. Hold it in your hand.

0:11.0

Truly, hold your phone in your hand and just look at it for a second.

0:16.7

Look at this strange sleek device that holds a decent chunk of your life.

0:23.0

Tap on the glass, look at the little metal bits in the charging port,

0:29.0

feel the smooth plastic that keeps it from shattering.

0:33.0

Every single piece of this object

0:37.0

was once buried deep in the earth. It struck me like a little, I don't know how to make anything. I don't really understand how the world around me is actually kind of constructed. I don't Conway. He's a journalist and the author of a book called Material World,

1:02.6

the six raw materials that shape modern civilization.

1:06.8

And at this point, Ed has thought a lot about his phone.

1:11.4

We think that when we're talking on our phones that everything is just passing through the

1:17.7

ether and then we just have a conversation as a result of it.

1:22.3

But in practice that's not the way the world works. You know,

1:24.6

when we're having a conversation remotely, that is thanks to lots of

1:28.4

fiber optics, it's thanks to lots of servers, it's thanks to physical stuff, it's thanks to copper that's been pulled out of the ground,

1:34.8

it's thanks to sand that's been turned into glass, that's been turned into fiber optic cables.

1:40.2

It's thanks to this physical infrastructure that so much of the activity that we think is important in the world

1:49.2

actually can take place. It just felt to me like, wow, there's this whole other universe, this whole

1:55.2

other world I hadn't really kind of explored or thought about.

2:00.1

I'm Doolanthearis and this is Atlas of Skira, a celebration of the world's strange, incredible, and wondrous places.

2:07.0

Today Ed and I are going to talk about three materials that our entire civilization depends on, salt, copper, and sand.

2:17.0

We'll visit the biggest man-made hole on earth.

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