Hey guys, just a quick little intro here.

I'm going to play a conversation on this special Saturday pod,

a conversation that I had with our new friends at 98 Strong.

They work with name image and likeness stuff with 98% of college athletes.

So I'll explain all that in a second.

I thought it was interesting, kind of the business behind all of this.

So enjoy. We're now joined by our friends from 98 strong andrew mavis hugh helman

gentlemen how we doing today great thank you so much for having a song really excited of course of course

guys so nil has been such a big topic of theseason, and you guys have really been in the thick of all of this stuff.

So if you would kind of talk about what 98 Strong is and what this crazy offseason or really since, I guess, July 1st, what does that look like for you all?

Yeah, it's absolutely been crazy.

Definitely a time of similar like the Wild Wild West, you know, institutions are scrambling to get their own

policies down. Student athletes are out there betting organizations that they want to, you know,

work with. You know, we started in 98 strong in April and me and my co-founder, Nick Bund,

who also played water pole.

I played water polo at George Washington University.

He played water pole at Harvard.

We noticed that there would be a pretty big disparity between student athletes and the 2%.

So you've got the big time kids that go pro, you know, with thousands of followers on

Instagram and football, basketball, even baseball.

Right.

And then you got the whole other 98% that has a huge opportunity to capitalize, you know,

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