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Hey everybody welcome to a special episode of Fake Doctors Real Friends. We assembled the gang here a bit because we want to talk about blackface in scrubs.

There were three episodes in particular over the years that had instances of blackface. One was me in a fantasy being Donald, one was Sarah in a fantasy being Donald.

And the third was Donald and I attending a black fraternity party, him and whiteface and me in blackface. So I think we all have a lot we want to say. There's a lot going on in the world right now.

And this I think it's very good that these discussions are all coming up not to use a hack need phrase, but it does feel like a teachable moment for us all.

And I thought Bill you might want to start off since you led the charge on this and called the studio and said you want the episodes taken down.

So do you want to just first talk about your decision to do that and you're thinking behind it.

Look the most important reason I wanted to do this besides the fact that I just felt stupid and bummed out about it. And it's my show and I'm like fuck if it makes me feel that crappy I can take that out.

And I think that I did see some things directed at Donald and Zach and Sarah and everybody should know that the reason that word showrunner exists in television is because you're the gatekeeper and anything that gets allowed on a show.

And then we take responsibility for so first off super sorry that any of you guys had to deal with any stuff because you know ultimately even though we're all friends and it was a super creative and kind of reciprocal environment with what you guys still ultimately at the end of the day did and we're receptive to doing whatever you know stuff we told you about.

And the second thing you ask is a good starting place because what's so interesting is it starts like ignorance you know is even now I was reading stuff you know just the last couple weeks when I first became aware of this is in it you know it's because the podcast on Zach you're revisiting old episodes.

You know I want to make sure we never sound like we're making excuses but one of the jokes amongst us is that none of us have ever really watched this show when you were going to show you make it you're filming you shoot it and you see it on TV and none of us have really watched it and for me 15 14 years and there are not 10 years since I saw it finale but 15 years since I saw any of these episodes.

And you guys saw some stuff and you're like oh man you know there's some issues stuff in there you couldn't do today doesn't feel great and the Disney was really cool we didn't get asked to do this you know I call them up and said hey is bunch of episodes have black face in it now I want to get rid of them and it's very interesting because the PC cancel culture whatever on Twitter is like why did you pull the whole episodes why don't you just edit those moments out and put them back on and I'm going to do this.

Back on and I said you know to one person like yeah well it's a pandemic I don't really have an editing facility up right now and I'll probably do that you know but I first thing wanted to do is get them off TV's it bummed me up personally and we can talk about why if you guys want to you know just maybe feel shitty.

I want to say one of the biggest night naivete things that I have about it and I'm I'm very sorry for my participation in it I just want to first talk about the ones where both Sarah and I were were dressing up as Donald and fantasies is that I really frankly at the time delineated in my mind between the traditional blackface that we've seen I remember when when Ted Danson did that blackface thing and I think it was 93 or so I remember being being like shocked I remember being like I'm not sure what I'm doing.

I'm not shocked I remember being like what the fuck was that guy thinking and I was just out of high school.

You know because he had done the you know the the one we saw growing up and back when yeah it was back when he was dating whoopie Goldberg.

Yeah he was dating whoopie Goldberg who comes up a lot on this podcast and I remember she was laughing at it and I remember even just as a 17 year old or whatever being like what the fuck was that guy thinking but I never when we were doing this I'm embarrassed to say now I never equated it I was like I

was a fantasy where I'm trying to be my best friend and I never thought it was the same thing it took a while it took a while it took a while when Donald and I started the podcast I mean obviously I

cringe a little bit about it in years but when not done I first started the podcast he mentioned because I mean we did blackface on this show and I and I cringe just to hear Donald I

can tell you this down but to hear you say it out loud it really made me feel so shitty and embarrassed and and I and I just feel stupid that at the time I didn't say to you

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