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1 big thing

Our democracy two years after Jan. 6

1 big thing

Axios

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🗓️ 6 January 2023

⏱️ 10 minutes

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Summary

California Rep. Kevin McCarthy lost a stunning 11 rounds of voting for the House speaker position this week, and there’s no end to the standoff in sight. Of course all of this has been unfolding in the lead up to the 2nd anniversary of Jan. 6 insurrection. Plus, California’s stormy winter. And, Pope Benedict is laid to rest. Guests: Axios' Margaret Talev, Andrew Freedman and Princeton University's Julian Zelizer. Credits: Axios Today is produced by Niala Boodhoo, Sara Kehaulani Goo, Alexandra Botti, Lydia McMullen-Laird, Fonda Mwangi and Alex Sugiura. Music is composed by Evan Viola. You can reach us at podcasts@axios.com. You can text questions, comments and story ideas to Niala as a text or voice memo to 202-918-4893. Go Deeper: House Democrats connect Jan. 6 to the GOP's speakership fight 2 dead after bomb cyclone hits California with flooding, high winds and heavy snow In photos: Pope Francis leads the funeral for Benedict XVI Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Good morning. Welcome to Exios today. It's Friday, January 6th. I'm Nyla Boudou. Here's

0:09.2

what we're following today. California's stormy winter. Plus, hope Benedict is laid to rest.

0:15.4

But first, our democracy two years after the January 6th insurrection. That's today's

0:22.0

one big thing.

0:28.6

Representative Kevin McCarthy lost a stunning 11 rounds of voting for the House Speaker position

0:34.0

this week. And there's no end to the standoff in sight. And of course, all of this has been

0:38.5

unfolding in the lead up to today, the second anniversary of the January 6th insurrection.

0:44.4

Here to provide context and our Friday politics state of play is Margaret Taliv,

0:48.4

a senior contributor to Axios, who's also the new director of the Democracy Journalism and

0:53.6

Citizenship Institute at Syracuse University. Welcome Margaret and congratulations on the new job.

0:59.0

Thank you Nyla. It's great to be back. Also joining us is Princeton University's Julian Zellazar,

1:04.2

a professor of history and public affairs and editor of Myth America, which is just out this week.

1:10.5

Hi Julian. Nice to be with you. Margaret, you have been calling this week a living lesson

1:16.9

in American democracy. What do you mean by that? It's really everything you could hope to understand

1:24.2

about how Congress works, about the divisions within the Republican Party, and a touch back to

1:30.8

the World War I era, and all the way back to the Civil War to really understand the threads,

1:37.1

the power struggles, and the potential outcomes coming out of this week. And Kevin McCarthy has

1:43.2

so far lost 11 attempts for this to happen. A century ago, that guy made it on nine tries,

1:50.8

so Kevin McCarthy is making history as we speak. But what you're seeing here is something different

1:56.2

than electoral politics. It is the internal politics of the House of Representatives,

2:00.7

and it is about how essentially five guys can hold off the will of the majority,

2:08.1

and the profound impact that could have on weakening the future of the House speakership.

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